Oomba;378598 wrote:
That is, for the most part true. And not against my point. You say it's rigged because of those things, but thats not rigged. They don't build musicians out of thin air. There are a lot of artists who use their vocal talent and marketability(attractiveness) to sell songs they've bought from songwriters, who legitimately want to stay out of the limelight. However the makeup, stage production, music videos, album art, etc. are all designed to help convey the musicians personal style, and the style of their music. After gear is paid for, this is what the advances are spent on. Besides, its not like other genres never get signed. They just have to be good enough to stand out. Unfortunately, most of these "underground" bands that you guys think are so great, don't have as many people agreeing with you as you might think. Hell, Lamb of God, which toured for YEARS on under-labels eventually signed with major label EPIC and was nominated for a Grammy in 2007. They've been in the billboard, on shows like Conan, their music videos have been on MTV, FUSE, MTV2, etc. They've been given as many possibilities as pop bands, however when Wrath came out this year they sold way less albums then Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, Kanye, all those acts do. It's because they don't have the mass appeal the pop genre does. So what do you want them to do, stop signing bands that the most amount of people will like, and that they won't profit from? Because they'll go bankrupt. Then they won't be able to afford to take risks on those "underground" acts you guys like so much (until they get signed, of course. Then they're part of the evil record label machine.) Then there will be no music industry. I'm not saying I like the system. I sure as hell don't listen to Kanye West, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, or any of these other god awful acts. But it's the listeners faults, not the record label. If more people had better taste in music (or rather, musical taste I agree with), then we'd get what we want.
I agree with you. Joe digitech hit the nail on the head though. He understands what I mean by rigged. Remember I told you the the real talent in the industry are barely known to people.Joe even got the exact names that were on my head too. For the radio to be playing a song like this at least 50 times per day shows that the industry is rigged. [youtube]<object width=560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="
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"Blackwolf;378617 wrote:
As a musician myself, I can tell you with certainty you cannot create a musician out of thin air. Even if you don't believe they are talented, many times they are - they are just playing songs you don't like. Just being able to play in time and in key takes talent, especially for a group that does perform live.If it didn't require talent and hard work, everyone would be a musician. Are you?
That's why I put the word "musician" in quotes. Because I'm not talking about the people producing the tracks, I'm talking about the people who get put in the front line.
JoEDigiTECH;378634 wrote:
When I say it's rigged I don't mean to imply that the whole industry is completely false. What I'm saying is that some artists have a better chance of succeeding based on their perceived marketablitiy. You can't make the one to one comparison between talent and marketablity in every case I think we agree. How else would you explain the likes of Brittany Spears and Soulja Boy? They both sold ass loads of records because their songs had mindless hooks and they prance around like puppets. In response to Blackwolf. No, I'm not a musician but I can assess the fact that some have achieved success disproportionate to their level of talent.
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